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Re: hip shrug

Not readily available. The reason I came up with "shrug" is that it's
similar to when you shrug your shoulder. In this case, shrugging one
and not the other.





On Jan 15, 9:48=A0pm, ro...@invalid.net wrote:
> Do you have a WC video moment or two you could refer those of us to that
> don't quite have a picture of what you mean by hip shrug?
>
>
>
> "Brian Pauley" wrote:
> > Hi,
>
> > A question to all you technique buffs and coaches out there. =A0How does=

> > somebody get rid of, for lack of better terms, a hip shrug when they are=

> > bringing up their trailing leg that they've just pushed of with during t=
he
> > V-2? =A0In other words, even though the person stands up onto the new gl=
iding
> > ski, and is not skiing in the back seat, the upcoming leg's hip rises ju=
st
> > slightly as the leg comes under the body.
>
> > Or maybe this isn't a big deal. =A0I see some guys do in on the World Cu=
p
> > circuit as well. =A0Seems like it's usually the taller skinnier guys fro=
m
> > smaller countries, but that just might be my bias. =A0Should the trailin=
g leg
> > be bent more, or earlier, during recovery? =A0Should the gliding leg of =
the
> > V-2 be even straighter to allow the straighter trailing leg to come in w=
ith
> > more even/level hips?
>
> > Any thoughts are appreciated.
>
> > Brian- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -
 

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See Also : Re: Marwe 610; First 150kms

170, huh... Funny, I asked because to me they looked a little short,
such that even with you compressing strongly (?) at the moment of the
photo, your hand seems low (not along your ear or so). Perhaps it's the
angle. I'm maybe a 1/4" taller than you in boots and noticed last
summer doing intervals on rollerskis that I had better V2 glide and
turnover with 168.5s, but felt more comfortable with 170-172.5 in the
sense you describe. Watching some snow video with the latter showed
that I couldn't get my hands through and was coming off the ski way
early to keep up. I also suspect in V1 that feeling of extra leverage
translated into staying on the poles so long that my shoulders were
twisting. Going go back to 168s immediately allowed up my hands to go
back further and extended my glide. One other thing Noel mentions is
that those with longer necks should go shorter on skate poles. I do and
had never considered it before.

Concerning classical poles, 160 seems long. Your shoulders look
relatively flat and so 157.5-158 might be close (Noel's skate
measurement less 10 cm). Mine slope considerably and a recent video
showed that at 157+ my hips were being pushed back a tad (Zach says this
is common with overly long poles for some reason). Gauging pole length
is where video and an expert eye can really help. A subjective clue can
be picked up either double poling or in faster diagonal stride. If you
sense the turnover or timing being slowed by the poles at all, usually
on the return, then it likely is. I also noticed that with poles too
long I get tired more quickly double poling.

Gene


Jim Howe wrote:
>
> Initially I was concerned about my weight (83-87kg) exceeding the
> capacity of the Marwes. I contacted Finn Sisu and they assured me that
> my weight would not be a problem. They stated that they have many
> skiers around the country in the 185-200lb range skiing on the 610s.
>
> Gene,
>
> My height is 74.67 inches. My pole length is 170cm for both snow and
> rollerskiing. While standing with my boots on the pole comes up half
> way between my chin and lower lip.
>
> I used to live in Sacramento and skied at Royal Gorge. I was actually
> sized with a 167.5cm pole by Noel at Sierra Nordic. I swithced to
> 170cm because I felt more comfortable getting more leverage with the
> longer pole.
>
> My classic poles are 160cm and come up to the shoulder joint as Noel
> recommends. The recommendation for the skate pole is 107% of the
> classic length.
>
> Noel's formula -
>
> SKATE: 2.26X74.67 = 168.75cm (I use 170cm)
>
> CLASSIC: 2.12x74.67 158.3CM (I use 160cm)
>
> 158.3x1.07 = 169.4cm
>
> I think the length's I use are consistent with what Swix charts
> recommend. Although I noticed last year the length recommendations had
> increased from the previous year.
>
> I'm wondering what your impression is based on the rollerskiing picture
> - Too long or too short? I don't notice a significant difference in feel
> when I go from the snow to dryland skiing.
>
> Jim
>
> --
> Jim Howe